Aperture 3 Essential Training + Ex. Files

Files (2): Lynda.com.Photoshop.CS5.Essential.Training.Exercise.Files.Only-RBS.rar (892.3 MB)

Comments (5): nice torrent! do you also have the exercise files for Creating a First Website with Dream-CS5? • thanks • You can get CS5 here on the pirate bay for free for MAC... Why pay $500.00 for something! Also you can get GIMP for free... • Don't go there smartHlolH.com/share.php (<a href="/redirect?http://www.cheepru.com/photoshop.htm">http://www.cheepru.com/photoshop.htm</a>) You have to pay to get stuff.................. katequen: Don't advertise stuff............ • guys i found a site where i downloaded the whole cs5 extended program with activation and everything :) smartHlolH.com/share.php delete the H's for link to work. i downloaded within min and works great. just felt like sharing if any1 is looking for cs5 with everything included

Files (234): Excel 2010 Macros in Depth/lce2010m.bin (435.1 MB) • Managing Multiple Worksheets and Workbooks/03 Linking Worksheets with Formulas/0303 Summarizing multiple worksheets with PivotTables or Consolidate.mov (19.5 MB) • Managing Multiple Worksheets and Workbooks/05 Linking Formulas Across Multiple Workbooks/0503 Summarizing data from multiple workbooks with PivotTables or Consolidate.mov (19.2 MB) • Essential Training/13 Creating and Using Macros/1302 Recording and using a simple macro.mov (14.1 MB) • Essential Training/14 Customizing Excel/1402 Customizing the Ribbon bar.mov (13.2 MB) • Essential Training/08 Collaborating with Others/0806 Saving files in shared locations.mov (12.1 MB) • Managing Multiple Worksheets and Workbooks/04 Working with Multiple Workbooks/0403 Copying and moving data and entire worksheets across different workbooks.mov (12.0 MB) • Managing Multiple Worksheets and Workbooks/03 Linking Worksheets with Formulas/0302 Creating 3D formulas for worksheets with identical layouts.mov (10.3 MB) • Essential Training/08 Collaborating with Others/0801 Importing and exporting data in Excel.mov (10.1 MB) • Essential Training/04 Essential Formatting/0406 Adding pictures and shapes.mov (9.8 MB) • Essential Training/14 Customizing Excel/1403 Setting Excel options.mov (9.7 MB) • Essential Training/10 Analyzing Data/1006 Exploring the Analysis Toolpak.mov (9.0 MB) • Essential Training/07 Large Excel Projects/0704 Creating multiple custom worksheet views.mov (8.8 MB) • Essential Training/05 Advanced Formatting/0501 Inserting SmartArt.mov (8.6 MB) • Essential Training/08 Collaborating with Others/0803 Inserting and editing comments.mov (8.5 MB) • Essential Training/09 Exploring Excel's Database Features/0903 Basic and multi-field sorting.mov (8.3 MB) • Essential Training/12 Creating and Using Charts/1205 Creating and modifying a pie chart.mov (8.1 MB) • Essential Training/04 Essential Formatting/0401 Formatting numbers and dates.mov (7.8 MB) • Essential Training/07 Large Excel Projects/0706 Managing worksheets.mov (7.8 MB) • Essential Training/04 Essential Formatting/0405 Using custom conditional formatting.mov (7.7 MB) • Essential Training/11 Advanced Analysis with PivotTables/1103 Modifying a PivotTable.mov (7.6 MB) • Managing Multiple Worksheets and Workbooks/01 Mastering the Utility Tasks Associated with Multiple Worksheets/0103 Copying and moving sheets within a workbook.mov (7.6 MB) • Essential Training/07 Large Excel Projects/0705 Hiding or grouping rows and columns.mov (7.5 MB) • Managing Multiple Worksheets and Workbooks/02 Working with Multiple Worksheets/0203 Applying global changes to worksheets.mov (7.4 MB) • Essential Training/08 Collaborating with Others/0802 Setting workbook permissions.mov (7.4 MB) • Essential Training/05 Advanced Formatting/0504 Creating and sharing styles.mov (7.3 MB) • Essential Training/00 Introduction/0001 Welcome.mov (7.3 MB) • Essential Training/13 Creating and Using Macros/1303 Editing a macro.mov (7.2 MB) • Essential Training/01 Getting Started/0102 Touring the interface.mov (7.2 MB) • Essential Training/01 Getting Started/0105 Maintaining file compatibility.mov (7.2 MB) • Essential Training/11 Advanced Analysis with PivotTables/1104 Creating and modifying a PivotChart.mov (7.1 MB) • Essential Training/10 Analyzing Data/1001 Using auditing to diagram.mov (7.1 MB) • Essential Training/07 Large Excel Projects/0707 Calculating formulas across worksheets.mov (7.1 MB) • Managing Multiple Worksheets and Workbooks/03 Linking Worksheets with Formulas/0301 Creating linkage formulas.mov (6.8 MB) • Essential Training/12 Creating and Using Charts/1204 Modifying a column chart.mov (6.8 MB) • Essential Training/09 Exploring Excel's Database Features/0906 Creating lookup tables.mov (6.8 MB) • Essential Training/03 Excel Formula Basics/0304 Adding numbers using Sum and AutoSum.mov (6.7 MB) • Essential Training/09 Exploring Excel's Database Features/0904 Using tables to sort 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Essential Formatting/0404 Using conditional formatting.mov (5.5 MB) • Essential Training/04 Essential Formatting/0402 Applying fonts, background colors, and borders.mov (5.4 MB) • Essential Training/02 Worksheet Basics/0201 Creating a worksheet.mov (5.4 MB) • Essential Training/09 Exploring Excel's Database Features/0902 Joining data from multiple cells.mov (5.2 MB) • Essential Training/06 Printing Preparation/0603 Printing and PDFs.mov (5.1 MB) • Essential Training/03 Excel Formula Basics/0306 Working with numbers in columns.mov (5.1 MB) • Essential Training/01 Getting Started/0103 Finding the commands you need.mov (5.0 MB) • Essential Training/03 Excel Formula Basics/0303 Adding numbers manually.mov (4.9 MB) • Essential Training/07 Large Excel Projects/0702 Freezing panes.mov (4.9 MB) • Essential Training/03 Excel Formula Basics/0309 Using IF.mov (4.8 MB) • Essential Training/05 Advanced Formatting/0502 Coordinating a look using themes.mov (4.8 MB) • Essential Training/09 Exploring Excel's Database Features/0905 Inserting automatic subtotals.mov (4.7 MB) • Essential Training/05 Advanced Formatting/0503 Applying built-in styles.mov (4.7 MB) • Essential Training/03 Excel Formula Basics/0301 Understanding formulas and functions.mov (4.6 MB) • Essential Training/05 Advanced Formatting/0505 Using templates.mov (4.6 MB) • Essential Training/12 Creating and Using Charts/1202 Inserting Sparklines.mov (4.5 MB) • Essential Training/06 Printing Preparation/0602 Inserting headers and footers.mov (4.4 MB) • Essential Training/07 Large Excel Projects/0703 Repeating row and column titles.mov (4.3 MB) • Essential Training/14 Customizing Excel/1401 Customizing the Quick Access toolbar.mov (4.3 MB) • Essential Training/02 Worksheet Basics/0202 Techniques for copying and pasting.mov (4.3 MB) • Essential Training/03 Excel Formula Basics/0311 Naming and using cell ranges.mov (4.1 MB) • Essential Training/07 Large Excel Projects/0701 Finding and replacing data.mov (4.0 MB) • Essential 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Comments (3): Many of the later .mov file cannot be read by any editor I have..corrupt files perhaps..anyone Even Quicktime cannot read them • @kadavul Thank you so very much for sharing this torrent. I really appreciate it. Much love to all who share. It is a fundamentally enjoyable aspect of the human experience. • Can you get word 2010? Oh and thanks for the upload

Files (3): Lynda.com - Excel 2007 Essential Training.iso (534.9 MB)

Comments (6): To Dorango and Michael60 You need to download QickTime 6 to play this • I have a the same problem as Dorango! I can't load the thing, can't use it, can't install it. What is wrong with this thing? • When I start this I get a box saying &quot;script runtime error property not found&quot;. Please could someone help me by telling me what they think is wrong? I get the start page with the chapters but when I click one the error message comes up I expect its something on my computer. thanks • ppl seed please I'm stuck in 96% and I really need this one, I promise that I will seed for a long time. plz • Its a great help for anyone,who wants to learn excel 2007.Which is more advanced and better compare to previous versions. Thanks a ton mate for uploading this. Regards Razaul • keep up the good work!!!!!!!!! This is gr8......

Files (2): Lynda.com - Excel 2007 Essential Training.uif (438.3 MB)

Comments (4): I get a error after entering first page and selecting any part of the "training". The error reads as following: "Scrit runtime error: property not found". Any idea whats causing this ? • WinRAR didn't work for me, but PowerISO did. Others like MagicISO should, too. • hey guys, i used winrar to unrar but failed. any reason ? • hi , this is great! does anyone have the one for PowerPoint????