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The History Channel presents "Last Stand of the 300"
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Movie promotion and ancient history collide on "Last Stand of the 300" from the History Channel, a glance back at the battle of Thermopylae between 300 Spartans and a vast Persian army. This battle, fought in 480 B.C., not only determined the future of Greek history and Western civilization, but it also became a symbol of bravery and heroism in the face of impossible odds. More recently, it inspired a graphic novel by Frank Miller that has been turned into a highly anticipated motion picture, opening tomorrow.
"Last Stand of the 300" recalls the warrior culture of the ancient Spartans, whose very name has become synonymous with discipline and austerity. No look at ancient legend is entirely free of metaphor or historical parallel to our own times. The notion of a tiny fraction of the population defending a country cannot be lost on contemporary viewers. And, of course, the adversaries of "The 300" were from Persia, a nation now known as Iran.
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This documentary is EXTREMELY american. They repeat the same things over and over and over and OVER AND OVER again, it gets quite annoying actually, and they get a few things wrong. Spend 5 minutes reading about it or one and a half hour on this documentary.
What's more, the "medal of honor" analogy was just disgusting and really pissed me of.
You do know that the Greek people we see today, who lives in Greece, are actually just a mixture of spanish, italian and turkish people? The anciant greeks were nothing like the ones who live there today. After greece was invaded by the surrounding countries the "races" were mixed, creating what we see today, no offence.
The ancient greek are belived to be Caucasian people (English, German, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish and so on) who were based in Germania, thus creating greece when borders and the first countries were formed.
If you are Greek I feel sorry for you, not for what you are, but for not knowing your own heritage.
As I see Eivind3k, are no better than the other "fellow" that doesn't know it's history, .
And definatelly what you say is not of any historical point. Truth the ancinet Greeks were different than the majority of the nowdays population in Greece but up to a percentage only.
Besides not all of the tribes found in ancient Greece were dominative or creative and form culture moral, combat, or whatever,.
For instance many were gone to the side of the Persians, such as the Thessaly people, and yes by force were also the Macedones, though they tended to help the other Greeks opposing Persians (served more like spies in the Persian army than oppsing force) as others did.
As about the much much latter Turks they were mostly interested to take out and mix to their population Greek genes.
"The ancient greek are belived to be Caucasian people (English, German, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish and so on) who were based in Germania, thus creating greece when borders and the first countries were formed"
That's complete out of history palce and time
what books are you reading about caucasian?,HEHEHAHAHAHAHA these tribes mentioned are NORDIC. born and lived on the north side of Europe (and apparentlly that's were they were some thousand years ago.
And yes the English formad latter on consisted in the isle mostly from the Brittones , the Celts and some other (let's not get to details) Latter mixed with the Saxones (German tribe)
Quite the opposite in Greece andcient was dominated by the so called Mediteranean tribes,=thin bones of sceleton, dark hair, straight to bit "broken",generally long in shape heads (length comared to width)
Yes that's the truth as described by many anciend athropoligists of that time / ARISTOTELES as well in its work Fisiognomonika.As seen in drawings and other pieces of art either vases or whatever.And of cource as been discovered from achaiologists.
WHEN GREEKS EVOLVED CULTURE AND SMASH THE PERSIANS.THE WHOLE REST OF EUROPE (including the ones you say) And except the CELTS, were up on the trees and still living in caves looking for food.
That documentary is a nice description of what happened there ,THOUGH THE BIGGEST MISTAKE of nowdays historians is that they are based on Herototos as a history source. He was HIGHLY objected as a historian and especialy by Ploutarch (latter on ) characterized as immoral.
So there comes Ploutachs works as well "About Herodotes immorality" = ???? ??? ???????? ??????????.
Yes babies,the Greeks are no good now , left in their fate alone and gotten fought with endless slaughter for centuries , but , Y know something more or less "original" Greece will exist. The ones who gave the lights of civilazation to the whole world.
Renesance for instance wasn't Plython Gemistos and the whole Platonic and Aristotelic philosophy the whole world would be eating bananas (well they eat as it seems.)
Small message to all of you "Neo Greeks"
If you want to honor your selfs and be called worth of carriyng such great history and culture READ and PRACTICE the ancients (at leat the philosophers) and as many sources as it can. The originals , not studies of some "payied to lie" books. Read the original scripts and get close to the truth.
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P.S. About the 300 movie , good effort close to the original story with minor glitches on the "Ephos" scene (OK major one) And Gorgo latter on.Few bits on the battle but stayied nice.
Little sissy "total.ineptitude" if you count your wholes in your body you will find much more than a man has.I guess you are already f***d form a Greek and still hurts....hehehehe.
And again "Mikojin" I believe you are wrong.
What is "extremelly American"? you are kidding right"?
Which sources of ancient Greek history have you read?
Don't tell me the ones they teach in Greek in schools nowdays....LOL.
Yes they do a few mistakes but then again that's mostly cause they have as main source Herodote who wasn't the most reliable.
Why don't you sit here and tell us what's the right one..lol.
Anyways historical sources an conflict on the subject of arethmetic forces, and a couple of other details of who was there except the (300)Spartans and the (700) Thespies
Some say Greeks had a rough 4.000 soldiers
Diodoros Sikeliotis and Isokratis.
Sure is the Persians had 1mil+army Along with other traitor Greeks who followed them along. i.e. the Thessaly tribes.
For sure Persians had so many, cause when Leonidas was asked about why having so few soldiers brought with and all together be as a small force he answered *among other) "Even if we put the entire Greek population wouldn't be enough to reach-confront arithmetically the enemy" (Answering to someone concerning arethmetic comfrontation to the Persians,as a measurment).
The summary repeating at every other section on the film is mostly cause it supposed to be a "come back" from advertisment break so the narrator sumarises the content previewed on the section before. Nothing wrong with that.
Finnally , it is a nice documentary study and well analysed tacticts , of cource concerning the sources we now have and speculate close to the truth.Well done.
though have to add to the fact that Spartan childs from 7-16 years of age were getting full education including language and music, after 16 was only war tactics. AND every Spartan king was also a PRIES of Dias (ZEUS) God.
And as far as Leonidas goes he was in the list of Pethagoreans having passed the school-teachings of Pythagoras.(Many assume that was taught by Pythagoras himself.)Leonidas was well at 50's at the battle and this is very possible
Mr "Oionos" we will have to correct this to say that
"heroes fight like those who can stand against many and can sacrifice them selfs if needed for the good of the beloved and the good values in life." NO matter the nationality or inherit.
Believe me you don't want me to list you over here and now how many Greeks of that ancient time were "chicke-s**ts" and had joined the Persians and fought against their fellows.
Read history my friend and then you will better know when and who is a hero.
And something more, and this goes to everybody,
As Plotinos says n work enneades (3rd one)
" And it is righteus to say that bad rulers govern coward people and that's just and not the opposite"
SO ,If you complai nabout who's and what does in your country perhaps next time you think better of who to vote (at least.)
Kai epidei den einai oloi to idio , H akoma perissotero den einai apogonoi pragmatikwn Ellinwn H twn "kalwn" Ellinwn , gia rikste oloi mia matia ston kathrefti, pws einai ta kokala sas sto xeri gia paradeigma , mipws poly xontra?
mipws poly opisthometwpia me kamposi karafla kai poli trixofyia san arkoyda sto swma?,
mipws poly megala aytia, kai petane pros ta eksw?
Mipws poly xontri myti me poy den kanei orthi kata tropon gwnia pros to proswpo alla kyri-grypi?
Mipws ta matia pane pros to "sxisto" style?
An einai etsi sas pliroforw meta lypis kai xaraw oti XASATE den exete sxesi me to antikimeno Ellinas.
Ante koitaxte diabaste kai meta to syzitame gia to poios einai Ellinas
Kai poses fores pigate stin Sparti H stis Thermopyles na dwsete ton foro timis sto symbolo tis andreias toy polemisti?
OXI? NTROPI, AISXOS.!
Kserete oti oi tafoi twn salaminomaxwn einai teloiws paratimena exoyn ginei xestres gia skylia.? NTROPH ,AISXOS, ante psifiste toys idioys loipon. Kai meta moy lete oti oli exoyn sxesi me toys arxaioys, oyte to 5-8% den exei.
NTROPI, AISXOS
Mr. "babinio" Not so wise to insult people without based accusations and examples.
I can prove you right here , right now that "chafington" could have a point of truth in what he says (sadly concerning some majority ,nowdays), though it seems he doesn't really posseses what he is talking about, so better he proves what he talks about.
It is good to know your origins, do you?And in which way and degree?
To: Alexandridas
Exeis dikio gia pola pou les. Socratis didnot write any books himself (like Jesus Christ) others wrote about him like Plato his disiple. Aristides happened to teach Great Alexander who as a young man managed to concuer all of the East including Egypt in Africa. After his death his generals divided all and eventually all was lost. The reason I mention this is simple....the Greeks have a knock of fighting between themselves and even go to extreeme....like poisoning Socrates.
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Na se diawrthosw , O Aristotelis Htan daskalos toy Mega Alexandroy.
Small correction here Aristotel was Alexader's teacher.
Oson afora ton Sokrati kai kathe allon "yper sofo"
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Kai akoma kai simera ston sygxrono pneymatiko mesaiwna poles (oxi oles) oi gnwseis einai eitai aloiwmenes eite krymenes,eidika oses aforoyn to pneymatiko meros toy anthrwpoy (poy exoyn sxesi kai me to fysiko).
Alla tha moy peis akome kia aytes poy Yparxoyn , poios tis diabazei? Oloi stin rekla kai stin kaloperasei kai telika den kseroyn ti ftaiei kai poy toys pane ta tessera.
Aplo paradeigma me ton Sokrati poy
itan H megaloastiki taksi poy ton "eksontose"
Xex, poios thelei toys anthrwpoys na xypnysoyn? Malon kaneis (apo aytoys poy exoyn ta "inia tis eksoysias")
Kala ekane o Pythagoras kai eixe tin sxoli toy mystiki Kai o Platon apo ekei eixe paei kai o Sokratis mathitis toy Pythagora Htan , opws to Idio legetai kai gia ton Leonida. (giati kai kathe Spartiatis basilias Htan kai Iereas toy Dios oytws H allws)
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H dhmokratia (H Hthelimena etsi epikratisei)kai epikratei H asydosia kai H oxlokratia.
Pali kataligoyme sto symperasma toy Plwtinoy oti , oi kakoi arxontes doiikoyn deiloys polites.
Apo Dimokratia,loipon, exei ginei asydosia.
Me liga logia , apo koinwnia twn aristwn (xrysos aiwn klp.) exei ginei h Ellada (se tromeri pleiopsifeia) H koinwnia twn axristwn.
Perastika se oloys.
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Na se kala.
sorry Alexandridas but i had to make an account just to say this but you are an insiration to all us greek people no matter what all thoes haters say our great grandfathers shaped this world into what it is yet people still ignore what greeks done from them this very day. ungrateful is the best way to put it.
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